maohi: hundreds attend tahiti parliament debate on science ethnic astronomy

Three to four hundred people attended a one day debate at the Assembly of French Polynesia on "The Polynesian Sky" and how science and tradition meet under it.
"We are agreeably surprised to see so many people today," said the president of Turu Ihi Proscience Association, Doctor Raymond Bagnis.
the basic idea was the meeting of two worlds: that of science and the universe of tradition. It is not a matter of checking how well founded Polynesian legends are scientifically but our purpose was to propose the role of collective memory.
It is interesting to see that constellations identical in various areas of the world they give place to different interpretations according to where one is at", said Dr Bagnis.
Sky and in particular the sun were at the heart of the debate, reports Tahiti Presse Agency.
"In Polynesia, the sun always played a significant role. One finds similarities with Egyptian civilization, the sun worshippers," said Dr Bagnis.
"But the Polynesians also knew the various constellations which enabled them to determine current and tides for navigation."
He said those impassioned with science should not follow it to the detriment of collective memory.
"The past should not be forgotten. To be making progress it is necessary to take account of people's lives. And for a technology to be well understood and accepted, it is not necessary to disconnect it from tradition," Dr Bagnis told debaters.
"Everyone played the game, the media as well as the people," said Dr Bagnis, with Tahiti Presse Agency reporting there was not enough room inside the assembly to fit all who came.
There was also a presentation from NASA astronaut Janice Voss.
As well as Bagnis' Proscience group, the day debate was organised by the ministry of Culture, Haururu association, Cercle d'investigation d'ethnoastronomie locale, CIEL, and society of astronomers of Tahiti, SAT.
 
 

maohi: hundreds attend tahiti parliament debate on science ethnic astronomy

Three to four hundred people attended a one day debate at the Assembly of French Polynesia on "The Polynesian Sky" and how science and tradition meet under it.
"We are agreeably surprised to see so many people today," said the president of Turu Ihi Proscience Association, Doctor Raymond Bagnis.
the basic idea was the meeting of two worlds: that of science and the universe of tradition. It is not a matter of checking how well founded Polynesian legends are scientifically but our purpose was to propose the role of collective memory.
It is interesting to see that constellations identical in various areas of the world they give place to different interpretations according to where one is at", said Dr Bagnis.
Sky and in particular the sun were at the heart of the debate, reports Tahiti Presse Agency.
"In Polynesia, the sun always played a significant role. One finds similarities with Egyptian civilization, the sun worshippers," said Dr Bagnis.
"But the Polynesians also knew the various constellations which enabled them to determine current and tides for navigation."
He said those impassioned with science should not follow it to the detriment of collective memory.
"The past should not be forgotten. To be making progress it is necessary to take account of people's lives. And for a technology to be well understood and accepted, it is not necessary to disconnect it from tradition," Dr Bagnis told debaters.
"Everyone played the game, the media as well as the people," said Dr Bagnis, with Tahiti Presse Agency reporting there was not enough room inside the assembly to fit all who came.
There was also a presentation from NASA astronaut Janice Voss.
As well as Bagnis' Proscience group, the day debate was organised by the ministry of Culture, Haururu association, Cercle d'investigation d'ethnoastronomie locale, CIEL, and society of astronomers of Tahiti, SAT.
 
 
 

New Zealand News - NZ - Maori group in Matauri Bay to subdivide

New Zealand News - NZ - Maori group in Matauri Bay to subdivide: "17.06.2004


Subdividing a little will save the lot for a Far North Maori group faced with losing its traditional tribal land over a $4.5 million debt with a finance company, says Te Tai Tokerau MP Dover Samuels.
Matauri X, which owns 500ha in the Far North on behalf of 430 shareholders, has voted to subdivide 10ha to repay the debt with Bridgecorp.
Mr Samuels, who is the single largest shareholder in Matauri X, said an 'unprecedented' 85 per cent of the shareholders voted to subdivide the land, at Matauri Bay, at a special meeting.
Matauri X bought into the Eternal Springs mineral water company in 2001 after borrowing $2.5 million from Bridgecorp without the approval of shareholders. The venture failed and the debt has escalated with interest.
Bridgecorp has said it would not charge penalty interest on the loan at this stage, but once it did, Matauri X would be up for about $4000 a week."